Originally posted by toots2375:
Does racism drive my opposition to Universal Healthcare? No. What drives my opposition to universal healthcare is robbing from the rich to pay for the poor. I am a firm believer in self sufficiency and survival of the fittest. Let's look at it in the most basic sense.
1) We want the BEST of the human race to reproduce. We want smart and beautiful people to procreate so that our species thrives and survives.
2) Those that "can't afford" healthcare, "can't" do so for a variety of reasons:
a)Poverty (meaning not smart enough to get an education)
b) Priorities- meaning they make the money to pay for it but healthcare is not a top priority in their lives. Why should we steal someone's money and make them pay for something they do not desire to have?
c) Those that "need" healthcare are the weak ones in the pack. Do we want to keep breeding those with mental and physical ailments that will pass on to their offspring, thus making our species weaker and weaker rather than stronger and able to survive?
d) Lifestyle choices- Everyone makes decisions about their diet, their exercise, etc. Why should other people who live responsibly, taking care of their body and living a healthy lifestyle be forced to pay for those that sit on their butts, eating bon bons and fast food, while sucking down cigarettes and booze?I don't want to pay to keep ol people alive well past the time they should be dead. I don't want to pay for the preventative maintenance a diabetic who WILL die from the disease- with their body organs rotting and ceasing to work or having to be cut off to prevent gangrene from spreading, as well as the medical supplies and prescription drugs that are used merely to make them THINK that they are living any quality of life. I don't want to pay to keep your "special needs" child alive-p you chose to have that child, YOU can provide for it, not the taxpayers.
No, it has nothing to do with race, it has to do with the natural order of things. We will ALL die. I shouldn't have to pay for YOU to fight the inevitable, for as long as YOU want to. The human will to live is strong. If you can't pull off your own survival, then the weak one in the herd is merely fulfilling its destiny.
Originally posted by singledad:Originally posted by toots2375:
... I am a firm believer in self sufficiency and survival of the fittest. ...Then America does not need any Military or Police, since that prevents self sufficiency and the survival of the fittest. In fact, let's take that to its ultimate level. No Government or no Societal Protections of any kind. If you can't survive on your own, you don't deserve to live.
If you can not agree with this, then you are compromising your beliefs to save your weak ass.
Originally posted by toots2375:LOL Single... I am able to shoot a gun and kill someone who is a threat just as easily as a soldier. I am more than willing and able. I have no qualms about killing someone who is a threat to my life. I simply don't have to because other members of my family voluntarily join the military to protect those that are unable. I am able. Are you? My family serves their country, does yours? We have sacrificed enough for the ungrateful wretches that live off others dedication and hard work, have you? Eventually, those that give and give have to say ENOUGH. Stop taking what you did not earn. I am one of those people. I have had enough taken by the government for those that won't/can't do for themselves. It started with food stamps, HUD housing, medicaid, etc. Now we are moving to healthcare for EVERYONE? Enough is enough. We're turning into a bunch of penned pigs. I for one, am not drinking the Kool Aid.
Originally posted by toots2375
I for one, am not drinking the Kool Aid.
Just Ayn Rand's. When a drunk broadsides you in accident and you're left hanging unconscious out of your car bleeding to death, I'll pull out my stop watch and see how long its takes you to bleed out and kindly remove your sorry unsurviving azz from the gene pool. You're the sort who would have let the genius Stephen Hawking die because of his genetic disease, right?
I've got a couple of old brown shirts you can have if you want to form a movement or anything based on your philosophy.
quote: Originally posted by toots2375:
I wouldn't have let Hawking die.. That would have been up to his parents. But I sure as heck don't appreciate the government knocking on my door demanding money to pay for Hawking's medical care. They had the sex, they made the choice to have him and they are responsible for taking care of him. See how that works? YOU make a decision and YOU pay for that decision.... Not YOU make the decision and other people pay for it.
I wonder, can you be any more self-centered than that? Society is about interdependence, that's how we got here. Perhaps you fail to recognize that altruism is a survival mechanism, not a drawback. Secondly, there can be no individuals without social interaction and support. Human individuality is a lateral effect of human socialization, it will not arise of its own accord outside of the group.
Its quite literally true that no man is an island . You owe everything you are to the evolution of culture that brought you languages, preserved continuity of manual and intellectual skills, use of tools and refined adaptability. Your sense of pride for your individualism is really a false vanity used to dismiss the very responsibilities for yourself which you nevertheless demand from others. I think a more mature attitude is to recognize that we are all in this together on this little ball of dirt speeding along in the middle of nowhere and that to help others is the best way to help ourselves.
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